Convention Questions for the Legends Team...

Damien said:
I think you're looking at it from the opposite angle than it's intended. People aren't trying to save Hasbro money. They're trying to convince Hasbro (and themselves) that Hasbro should/can do something because it fits within Hasbro's established model.
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hmmberto said:
a basic fact of how the line works. Reuse has been a feature of ML from the very beginning - literally since Toy Biz wave 1.
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fac said:
we need to accept there may be more limitations on what they can do,
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Yeah, it's a me thing at this point and I'm saying that with no snarky-ness. Why would I compare a Funko Pop from ten years ago to one from today and bemoan the fact that there were no advances? It is what the line is. I guess ML is in that kind of ballpark.

For me the signals get mixed when they do, on rare occasion, come up with something that is pretty close to modern action figure standards--a game verse Wolverine or Psylocke for example--and I wonder why that can't happen more often because I'd love to buy more and be excited for what I'm getting. They are charging the same (if not more) than superior toy lines, after all. But again, it's a me issue at this point. I just gotta keep telling myself what this line is.

Also, I'm not against reuse, I understand that is a thing and I'm fine with it when done appropriately. TB Magneto on an Iron Man buck and Human Torch on an old Spider-Man buck were not great reuse options and if those had been shoehorned onto dozens and dozens of subsequent figures instead of one-offs, that would have been a real problem. That was a pioneer toy line, some stuff worked, some stuff definitely did not.
 
yojoebro82 said:
Yeah, it's a me thing at this point and I'm saying that with no snarky-ness. Why would I compare a Funko Pop from ten years ago to one from today and bemoan the fact that there were no advances? It is what the line is. I guess ML is in that kind of ballpark.

For me the signals get mixed when they do, on rare occasion, come up with something that is pretty close to modern action figure standards--a game verse Wolverine or Psylocke for example--and I wonder why that can't happen more often because I'd love to buy more and be excited for what I'm getting. They are charging the same (if not more) than superior toy lines, after all. But again, it's a me issue at this point. I just gotta keep telling myself what this line is.

Also, I'm not against reuse, I understand that is a thing and I'm fine with it when done appropriately. TB Magneto on an Iron Man buck and Human Torch on an old Spider-Man buck were not great reuse options and if those had been shoehorned onto dozens and dozens of subsequent figures instead of one-offs, that would have been a real problem. That was a pioneer toy line, some stuff worked, some stuff definitely did not.
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Multiple lines masquerading as one, that's what I'm saying. It's wild that the ~$30 MvC Wolverine even stands a chance in a comparison against a $100 SHF figure - at the price difference it shouldn't even be a conversation, but there are areas where ML holds its own. If they could bring the average figure somewhere closer to that Wolverine they'd really enhance the perception of the line as a whole.

The conversation got me curious about the frequency of reuse of certain bodies. A (very rough) count looks like Vulcan has been used for maybe 15 figures going back to the beginning of 2025, and that's including things like Archangel and Ghost Rider that have Vulcan somewhere in there but have major unique bits. That's out of, what? 200+ figures?

The female figures are the worst offenders in general, because they're reusing a stable of bodies that are grossly outdated - I don't even know how many different female bucks they have at this point, and I don't care because any of them without proper torso articulation and butterflies are a waste and shouldn't count.
 
hmmberto said:
Multiple lines masquerading as one, that's what I'm saying.
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That's where I was going with my "mixed signals" comment, I guess. You get excited for the occasional "higher-than-usual" effort figure but they are few and far between. Then I see other lines that are high-effort all the time and I'm genuinely excited to see what they do next. But I get it, it's a quantity over quality business model for ML. McFarlane DC is the same. In both cases I wish for quality over quantity, where getting something really good is a routine instead of the stars aligning, but that's just not what either line is shooting for.
 
yojoebro82 said:
That's where I was going with my "mixed signals" comment, I guess. You get excited for the occasional "higher-than-usual" effort figure but they are few and far between. Then I see other lines that are high-effort all the time and I'm genuinely excited to see what they do next. But I get it, it's a quantity over quality business model for ML. McFarlane DC is the same. In both cases I wish for quality over quantity, where getting something really good is a routine instead of the stars aligning, but that's just not what either line is shooting for.
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I don't think this is wrong, though I view the average output of the line as a whole more favorably than you. The draw for me with ML is and always has been the depth of the character selection, and there just might be a tradeoff between a line that makes Hypno-Hustler and Marrina and is on the cutting edge of action figure technology. I do think they really need to implement some basic improvements across the board so that tradeoff could feel less stark, cause some releases are really dragging down the averages - I'm looking at you, ANOTHER classic Mystique with crappy articulation.

I will say that I'm basically completely uninterested in buying any more A-Listers/repeat characters/costumes in ML that don't meet the standard of what they've shown themselves capable of. I'm never buying another Spider-Man with a waist cut and no butterflies, ever again.
 
hmmberto said:
I don't think this is wrong, though I view the average output of the line as a whole more favorably than you. The draw for me with ML is and always has been the depth of the character selection, and there just might be a tradeoff between a line that makes Hypno-Hustler and Marrina and is on the cutting edge of action figure technology. I do think they really need to implement some basic improvements across the board so that tradeoff could feel less stark, cause some releases are really dragging down the averages - I'm looking at you, ANOTHER classic Mystique with crappy articulation.

I will say that I'm basically completely uninterested in buying any more A-Listers/repeat characters/costumes in ML that don't meet the standard of what they've shown themselves capable of. I'm never buying another Spider-Man with a waist cut and no butterflies, ever again.
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The Rivals Spider-Man is such a headscratcher for that. You go through the trouble of making a totally unique sculpt for Spider-Man... a costume that is good enough that it would encourage people to actually pay for better available options... to not have it be up to snuff with modern Spidey articulation is nuts. Also sour they did this for Rivals, but did not create a unique sculpt for Peter's PS5 Advanced Suit. Multiple versions for Miles... very sour.
 
1 - Two years later: should we expect an X-Men '97 Bastion figure, or a mainline release of an updated comic version?
2 - What's a fun legal hurdle in the last year you've had to jump to get us a figure that's a fun story worth sharing?
3 - Muse/Bullseye restock?
4 - Seconding the CrossGen figure question!! :)
5 - Will you please stop using the Vulcan forearm with a sculpted cut in it on characters that don't have a cut there? PLEASE?
6 - Any chance you'll go back and do a unique sculpt for the PlayStation Peter outfit?
7 - BAF parts and solid cases: is there a big distribution difference between how many of each BAF part ends up being produced? Obviously re-issues (like Power Princess) skew the numbers, but is this something you think about/plan for?
8 - Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man - any support for that show planned?
9 - at least one fan is still hoping to complete an X-Men Retro cardback collection of the original X-Men Animated line-up/costumes. We are halfway there with comic orange cards (Storm, Gambit, Rogue, Beast, Charles). Any chance this line-up will be added to in the near future? X-Factor Cyke/Jean and alt Logan costumes don't count.
10 - Where might we see an MCU Darcy figure worked into the lineup these days?
11 - Any plans for another Infinity Saga-like wave to fill-in MCU gaps? Or should we consider those gaps permanent?
12 - If Elektra is not announced at the con: Are you done with Deadpool & Wolverine now or can we expect the main missing characters - Elektra, Gambit, Torch - to eventually be revealed? Also - TVA Agent would make a great figure for two franchises!
12 - What happened that Thunderbolts* support was limited to only two two-packs at the time of release? Val/Void is appreciated - will we ever see the rest?

Seconding all of these I copied from various people:
Are figures based on the live action Disney+ shows off the table now, apart from maybe a heavy hitter like DD? There were no figures for Echo, Agatha All Along, Iron Heart, Wonder Man, limited figures for Ms. Marvel, Moon Knight and Secret Invasion, and nothing announced for Vision Quest.

Any chance they might restart the Pulse army builder line?

When they make a character like New Mutant Roberto/Sunspot in the X-Men 97 style, is there an intention to have him potentially "fit in" with the comic line or could we expect a more comic accurate version that will match other New Mutants? This is would be helpful to know what is considered team building and completion.

The line seems to be undergoing some scale creep with figures like Gorgon, Odin and the one Wolverine - not so much a question but more asking if this is a trend.

Who has the ultimate approval on character selection: Hasbro, Disney or Marvel?

Generally, how many fully sculpted/painted/ready-to-go figures sit in the vault waiting for release?

What is the least amount of time it has taken to produce a figure from concept to store shelves and which figure was it?

There is some confusion as to statements made about 2026 having two BAF waves. Are the two 2026 waves the Skurge BAF and the Box BAF, or is the Skurge BAF considered 2025 meaning there is another BAF on the way in 2026?

Why is the BAF focus in the past few years mixed waves as opposed to themed waves?

When it comes to the Marvel licensing fee, do all Marvel characters carry the same "price" or do some characters have a higher or lower licensing fee attached? Like does Spider-Man carry additional a higher licensing fee than Stingray?
 
Lucid Silverback said:
...or sits on his lap and says, "Actually, sir, if you'll allow me to show you a PowerPoint presentation I have prepared for you."

But, in all seriousness, I do like question #2.
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Same! It's a good question, the type that might actually get them talking. You're asking them to talk about the things they deal with in their day-to-day jobs, instead of just rapid firing a bunch of specific characters they can't really respond to.
 
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