The Chatty Pointless Thread

yojoebro82 said:
Not sure whether to put this here or in the books or movies thread: I don't get Wicked. I haven't really gotten into it yet. I saw the play with my wife and dozed off (to be fair, I've seen more than a couple of plays with my wife and have dozed off), I saw the first movie once at a friend's house but it wasn't really holding my attention.

I've only seen bits and pieces of the classic Wizard of Oz movie, never all the way through. That's on my to-do list.

I have, however, read the original Frank L Baum novel. Many times. Like 7 or 8 in the last year. Because my five year old loves it and wants it read to her again and again. Which is weird because she's a timid little thing (she gets scared when Darth Vader boards the rebel ship at the beginning of A New Hope) and the original novel has a bit of an edge to it which I like. And the art is great.

But yeah, Wicked, still not all on board with that one.
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While I'm a theater guy, I've never seen the play, and I haven't read the book either, but I'd likely be down for seeing a production of the show if I was invited. The movies though? I have a less-than-zero interest. The trailers for both entries annoy me, and there is something about Ariana Taco Bell Grande that just irritates the crap out of me. My grand-niece, who is 8, loves it....so I had to pretend to be interested when she went on and on about it on Thanksgiving. I think I'd rather yank every single one of my pubes with a pair of tweezers than sit through either one of these flicks.
docsilence said:
When the musical came out I was baffled because I'd read the book years ago and was like "how do you make a cheery musical out of barely coherent fan fic where a tiger kinda sexually assaults a munchkin on stage at a sex club?"
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Well...now THAT sounds like an interesting show to me!
docsilence said:
I find the metamorphosis from Baum's books to the film to McGuire's books to the musical one of the weirdest journeys in modern glorified fan fic/meta-textual storytelling ever. To each their own, but for my money, Baum's books and the old movie and if we're being really crazy, the drugged out fever dream that was Return to Oz.
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I haven't read any of Baum's stuff, but I've been told that Return to Oz is a more faithful movie as far as the tone goes. I saw Return to Oz in my early teens, and man did I love that movie! It was so reviled by critics at the time, but it was SO up my alley.
 
We hosted my brother in law for a bit this evening. I have four BILs and I have mentioned this one before. He used to live with us but has been homeless off and on, saw combat in Kosovo, and is an addict. When he's good, he is my favorite of my wife's brothers, but tonight he was ON one with conspiracies and such, but also... As aggravating as a trump person usually is, have you ever engaged with a Trump person... On meth? I feel like that could potentially scare straight the average Trump person.
 
SDcomics said:
Ru, is your brother in law suffering from post traumatic stress disorder?
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Absolutely. It's something he has been dealing with for a couple decades now. He has a few things going on and has a completely horrible view of himself,.feeling he needs to punish himself and deprive himself of people who love him, so he self medicated which leads to more bad decisions, so he feels worse about himself, and so on. Like I said, he has lived with us a few times, and the last time he was going into a program and I even dropped him off there and watched him go, but he apparently never checked in and has been living on the streets ever since. I was running around all over San Pedro until I found him just to give my wife some piece of mind so she could finally sleep that night. He is an incredibly loving person with a giving heart but he just scuttles himself at every opportunity.
SDcomics said:
Is the VA doing anything to help him out?
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He has gone to them several times and he is getting benefits right now, which... Just goes to gambling apps and who knows what else, but he also spends a good chunk of his money on feeding everyone in the tent community he lives with. If he has $20, he'll spend most of it on who ever is around him. His big issue is not doing what he needs to in order to get the help he needs. Our door is open to him, and same with two of his brothers. I gave him some of my clothes last night and my wife always stuffs his belly when he is here, and his brothers will always do the same. My wife fills out any and all paperwork for him to get whatever he needs, but he still has to show up to these places and sometimes he definitely has but right now he is not in that head. He says he has too many things to take care of on the streets right now and has to solve things for his community, but also is working toward defeating the Cartel and preventing the new colonization of these United States by Spain, because they're attacking the president, and so on.
 
SDcomics said:
The eternal debate.

Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?

Yes or no? Why or why not?
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I don't think so, but I'm not passionate about it. Christmas might be the most appropriate time to watch it, but it isn't so much a Christmas movie as a movie set during Christmas. It doesn't explore any traditional Christmas themes. You replace "office Christmas party" with "office Halloween party," and virtually nothing changes.
 
I've honestly put "is Diehard a Christmas movie" on my "list of debates I never need to get into again." I don't even think it's a settled debate, I just can't get fired up about it anymore.

Now Gremlins, GREMLINS is a Christmas movie, because of the Santa story.
 
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