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I think this was the last time I enjoyed Charlie Sheen:

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One of my favorite things Charlie Sheen has done was his scene in Wisdom. You can't hear anything they're saying but his body language is so well done. Of course Ferris Bueller, and he manages to almost steal a scene from Sam Jackson in Loaded Weapon.


And I also love Men At Work. Mostly for Keith David, but I think Emilio gave his brother some great bits.
 
adrienveidt said:
You people are incomprehensible. When y'all say Chris Tucker has no talent nobody understands the words coming out of your mouths.
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I mean, I didn’t *actually* say he has not talent, but now that you mention it . . . yep, I agree.
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And oh my grodd, all the hooting laughter to the weird racist comedy of the Rush Hour series totally befuddles me.
 
AceofKnaves said:
Get ready:

I don’t like Friday. I’ve had (very stoned) friends try to get me to laugh at it for decades. I just don’t think it is funny or entertaining. But I’m not generally into “slacker” comedies in general, so there’s that.
But like I don’t necessarily think it’s “bad”, it’s just not for me. I can’t be so kind about Titanic or Avatar, and while I don’t think The Fifth Element is *that* bad, I just don’t think it is “good”.
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docsilence said:
Somehow as a lifelong sci-fi fan and someone who literally makes part of my living from sci-fi writing I have not seen any of the Avatar movies. I
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Have you seen Dances With Wolves, or Pocahontas? If so, you've seen Avatar
Damien said:
Because Avatar is a giant fat nothing. It's soulless and exists ONLY as spectacle. Fucking 'unobtainium.' The absolute fucking audacity to even put that in the world with a straight face and expect to be taken seriously. So yeah - people go see it. They say it's really pretty. Everyone describes it as an 'experience' to see it. No one gives a fuck about it a week later, though, because there's nothing TO care about. Utter garbage.
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THIS! I took my son to see the first one, and as soon as "Unobtanium" was mentioned I think my eyes rolled back into my head so hard that it's a wonder I didn't need surgery to get them back in position.
JakeEkiss said:
The unobtanium is funny because in the sequel they pivot away from that entirely into space whales who have an organ that makes eternal youth goo. Which, ok, are we going to keep doing that for every new movie? Find a new cliche thing to fight over? I guess we have to because the movie has set up no better stakes for why humans keep coming to this incredibly hostile planet otherwise.
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I never bothered with the sequel, but I just figured the Macguffin in that flick was going to be called "Hardtogetium".
JakeEkiss said:
Thing is, he used to know this. He used to make movies that were genuinely exciting to watch and which still hold up even though the effects are chunky. I hated Titanic, but it's a more dramatic film. It's better than these.
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I got so sick of all the praise heaped on Titanic. Yeah, the technical aspects of it are impressive, especially in regard to the sets and costumes. That's the only nice thing I can say about it. I hate that movie and it's two-dimensional characters SO much. I won't even get started on how much I loathe that damned Celine song. Every time I saw the video for it I wanted someone to come up behind her and push her overboard. It would have been a decent film if we'd had a sequence with Celine getting eaten by a shark.
Damien said:
Sure. But also, and this is a hot take; I don't think Cameron is that great anyway. I think his reputation coasts on a few good films he made 30-40 years ago. I fucking hate Titanic for a whole host of reasons I don't need to get into. But even if you accept the idea that Titanic is a great film (again, I do not), what has he done since then that's even worth talking about?

He's just another guy that had a few great successes and now we're supposed to pretend he's actually really good at what he does. He isn't. Avatar is proof of that. Avatar is fucking shlop trash and it's also 100% his baby and most of his creative output for the last decade.
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Agree 100%. The best thing I can say about Titanic and Avatar is that they have nice visuals. Every single other aspect of them is pure crap.
RunestoneCowboy said:
By all accounts, Jim Cameron is an absolute tyrant and one of the meanest sons of bitches in the business so it's a rare day that I root for his success. His dismissive contempt for the folks who point out how terrible all his 4K AI remasters look make him seem like a real tool, as well.
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Oh man...his "remasters" are so awful. He somehow managed to make actual human actors look like CGI creations.
joshsquash729 said:
I suppose when you inch toward becoming a billionaire like Cameron supposedly is, and can really just do whatever you want whenever you want, it'll do things to ya.
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Possibly, though I've heard stories of him being a major asshole all the way back on the set of the first Terminator.
AceofKnaves said:
Then you haven’t talked to me.

Watching Avatar in theatres was one of the most repellent experiences of my life.

Now I’ve been off on Cameron since Titanic (I fucking hate that movie too, bloated tripe), so there is that. But man oh man I rarely want to walk out of a movie, and I had to be literally held in my seat a couple times by my then-girlfriend when I wanted out. Although this and also that awful Robin Hood movie with Russell Crowe allowed me to make a rule that we got to walk out if a movie was *that* bad.

I could go on and on and on about what I do not like about Avatar (including Sam Worthington, who I cannot stand to watch and who ruined the Clash of the Titans remake and The Vow for me), but mostly it’s that if a story and characters don’t “grab” me (and sorry but the characters and story of Avatar are relentlessly recycled and in a poorer form than their previous incarnations) then a bunch of CGI visuals actually *detracts* rather than adds for me. I don’t *love* CGI generally (the uncanny valley is always there for me, and nothing up on screen seems to be more interesting than my imagination anyway), and technical stuff in general actually annoys me if I’m not totally drawn in to the story. And I am not. drawn. in. to Avatar.

Don’t mean to yuck the yum of those who enjoy, but I can’t with those fucking movies. In my head, they are just Blue Cat People Fucking.
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PREACH! All of this!
AceofKnaves said:
Heh.
Want an even hotter take?
Cameron’s best movie was the original Terminator, and he’s been on a slow-and-steady creative decline ever since, a decline that stopped being slow and steady in the mid 90s.
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Amen!
AceofKnaves said:
And perhaps hottest take of all?
While I am somewhat charmed by The Fifth Element, Chris Tucker’s performance makes it impossible for me to rewatch. He’s just . . . the worst. The only time I ever enjoyed him onscreen was when Sam Jackson beat him to death with a bat in Jackie Brown.
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Until this thread, I thought I was the only one who didn't like Fifth Element. Went to see it in the theater, after hearing SO much praise for it, and I was baffled. The flick has so many damned tonal shifts, that it feels like a bunch of different movies stitched together. I didn't mind Tucker in Friday, and had seen some of his stand-up that wasn't bad, so I was really surprised when he showed up and proceeded to annoy the living shit out of me in every scene he was in. I just hate that movie so much, and Tucker is a huge reason why.
AceofKnaves said:
The only nice thing I can say about Titanic is that I suppose it is a technically well-made film.
It’s also second to the bottom for me of fucking awful Leo diCrapio performances, just above his smug, vacant work in Romeo+Juliet. Titanic is definitely the most “oooooh I wanna punch him” film. The other performances are good, but he’s just such an anchor of shit and he exposes all the garbage of the script. It’s just a big, dumb movie. If the “teen romance” angle wasn’t in there, I think more folks would see it for what it is.
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Yep. I really hated him in Romeo + Juliet, and then he comes along in Titanic and managed to be even more punch-able.
Chooch555 said:
The Fifth Element is a joyful masterpiece and y'all are scrooges.
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Bah, Humbug!
 
JakeEkiss said:
TBF to Peter, from what little behind the scenes I've seen, I cannot fathom a guy who wanted to be the director on that film LESS than him. I don't get the impression he was arrogant on those so much as just done. He'd finished doing Tolkien, he just couldn't escape the gravity well.
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For sure. But like... A) then sack up and don't make it, you sellout clown, and B) it still sucks balls. A good filmmaker could make a -decent- film even if they're not that interested, just like so many of the rest of us can go to work and do our jobs at an acceptable level even if we HATE our jobs.
PJ showed up, high on the smell of his own ass crack, and took a steaming shit all over a beloved children's story because he is a fucking terrible film-maker when he doesn't have anyone to rein in his stupider ideas. WITH someone like that? Does great work. But most of the things I actively dislike about the LotR films are also -directly- things PJ wanted that other people did not want to do. So....



Ru1977 said:
but Hobbit apparently was more of a studio mandate than a passion project.
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People keep saying that, but it's bullshit. PJ -chose- to sign on to do those films. He wasn't contractually obligated to do it. He wasn't forced at gunpoint. He was convinced by money on the table. That's it. He made a bad series of films due entirely to greed and apparently none of the people good at telling him some of his ideas sucked came along for the ride.
 
Lindsay Ellis is great. I've always enjoyed her work. Really disappointing that she was basically bullied off YT and social media for so long.
 
Damien said:
Lindsay Ellis is great. I've always enjoyed her work. Really disappointing that she was basically bullied off YT and social media for so long.
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I agree with everything you said. I've watched several of hers about things I wasn't interested in but she made it compelling anyway.
 
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