Skurge the Executioner BAF Wave

Oh... I fully understand the realities of having to keep the line going... and I guess what is more frustrating than the inevitabsle repeats of Spider-Man, Wolverine Iron Man and Captain America are the calls for them to revisit the non-luminaries. People who want Ghost Rider or Iron Fist or whatever remade every time there's a minor articulation innovation. I'm the biggest Black Panther fan you will find but I don't need them to give me a new one every time theres a modest new formula introduced.
 
hmmberto said:
I'm also a "new character over everything else" kinda guy. But, I think it's just a fact of life that we're always going to be getting those same 30 characters over and over, and I'd prefer they put them out for the 19th time with some sort of upgrade or interesting articulation. Those A-listers are what carry the line, even if they're not what I think makes it interesting or compelling. I'm sure that whatever Wolverine or Iron Man gets made in whatever iteration sells better than Werewolf by Night, or Husk, or Starfox, or whoever. Those few dozen characters that get made over and over aren't preventing new characters from getting made - they are precisely what enables the line to stay alive long enough to go so deep into the roster of the Marvel U. So, being the necessary evil they are, at least they occasionally put some effort in and do something interesting with them.
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We just don't need THREE of them in the ONE catch-all BAF wave of the year. Especially when that wave isn't mass retail. That's just messing with us.
 
My only real complaint when it comes to character selection is things like giving us Songbird, Citizen V, and Mach 1 from the original Thunderbolts and then basically quitting on the team. Or giving us obscure versions of Namorita and Justice instead of the classic versions needed to complete the New Warriors. It’s a drop in the bucket compared to how many figures are released in the line each year. Dowhatchulike Hasbro, but at least finish what you started in a reasonable amount of time.

To be fair, they have given or are giving us GXM Banshee, Astonishing Beast, Rachel, Feral, Gorgon, and Triton this year, and that’s a pretty nice haul of team builders, but they waited so damn long that now they’re remaking Black Bolt and Medusa as well. To Panther Cult’s point, if they had just finished off the original Thunderbolts in 2-3 years, I’d be fine never to get another original Tunderbolt in the line again.
 
Tunderbolt ;)

Most non-A-list teams only have six or so main characters. Starting a team without the plan in place for all of them is just yanking their customers around, when it should be priority one! Each wave could easily start a team, add to a team and complete a team. And so on. That kind of rhythm would only enhance sales of aging waves - could also benefit Hasbro by helping move aging stock instead of all of that "action" going aftermarket.
 
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Schizm said:
We just don't need THREE of them in the ONE catch-all BAF wave of the year. Especially when that wave isn't mass retail. That's just messing with us.
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I guess I'd look at the consistency of it and say - maybe we DO need three of them, and that's why they keep doing it? Again, I don't like it, but I don't think they're doing it out for the hell of it.
 
PantherCult said:
Oh... I fully understand the realities of having to keep the line going... and I guess what is more frustrating than the inevitabsle repeats of Spider-Man, Wolverine Iron Man and Captain America are the calls for them to revisit the non-luminaries. People who want Ghost Rider or Iron Fist or whatever remade every time there's a minor articulation innovation. I'm the biggest Black Panther fan you will find but I don't need them to give me a new one every time theres a modest new formula introduced.
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I get that. I guess I see those repeats as inevitable anyway, and I don't really know how much people including them in their wishlists matters. Now, do I judge them for their tastes, even though I think they're totally boring? Why yes, yes I do.
 
As annoying as it is to get “the three” at least they are first-time versions and in Ai Apaec’s case a base body that can be used to fix some really rough earlier offerings.
 
Schizm said:
We just don't need THREE of them in the ONE catch-all BAF wave of the year. Especially when that wave isn't mass retail. That's just messing with us.
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I wonder if mass retail passed on this wave or if it was always assumed to be fan channel?

Because if mass retail passed on a wave with Wolverine, Spidey and IM versions, that is kind of shocking honestly.
 
I'd guess that comic-based BAF waves aren't even offered to mass retail anymore. They are probably strictly Fan Channel from now on.
If that's the case and they are really geared to online sales - EE, Gamestop, Amazon, etc, no more than two A-listers should be in a wave.
 
SDcomics said:
You felt that way because it's true. Especially now that these things are over 25 bucks a pop.

NO ONE should have to buy something they don't want to get something they do. What other hobby makes you do that?
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There aren't many BAF I'm even interested in. Especially since they tipped the.hqnd they'd repackage and sell the ones I tended to want. Maybe it's just that I tend towards characters that are not big chunky guys and those are the ones that become BAF?

But it's funny how when I sell BAF pieces, the buyers are the collectors that drink the above Kool-Aid, and always pepper me with disbelief that I wouldn't want Nemesis or Mindless Ones or Blackheart. I remember selling the Mindless One parts and the dude was even questioning my legitness as a Marvel fan as he handed me the cash for them. Even when I sold Apocalypse (didn't articulate cool enough for my tastes), the buyer was like, "So you just don't like X-Men?"

As Damien said, collecting is stupid, and people make the weirdest justifications to stay in the game as much as they do to stay out. And I feel like there's this collective coping mechanism, especially in Facebook groups, which I think are a little different than forums like ours in terms of tone since they tend to be localised, where because someone else feels they have a gun in their mouth to the latest wave that they actually don't want, they have to make sure everyone else is in that collective misery with them. Because to be alone in that is to face the fact that maybe you don't really know what you're doing and you're out of control.

The last few interviews I saw, even Dan's on the 3POA, alluded that even Hasbro might not be into BAF anymore but they're compromising with some bone throws. I wonder if they just want that aftermarket slice or (haha) they sense the consumer frustrations.

But some collectors feel the BAF is synonymous with Legends, and it was for a bit, Mattel of course did theirs and McFarlane tried with Batmobiles and horses and characters. Even be just throws them up at deluxe prices these days. Oh, but my point is collectors also tend to fear change, it's a hobby of habit and familiarity, so dropping BAFs suddenly becomes a value loss discussion, etc.
 
I had to look it up. The last BAF wave that I DIDN'T complete was Venompool in 2020. I only bought Morbius and Phage from that wave. Before that it was the Fat Thor wave in 2019 because I skipped Cap and Vision.
 
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