Masters of the Universe: Origins

Oh yeah. I have a few of them. These and Power Records are to blame for my present day addiction to audiobooks.
My brother! Yeah, that was all great stuff. I actually have a copy of, I believe, the complete series of the Goldenbooks visual dramas.... whatever you want to call them, saved to my spare hard drive.


See, I loved the TMNT movies as a kid (not the third one). Of course I wished they'd had Bebop and Rocksteady, but I watched the shit out of that VHS of the first film to the point I even still remember the commercials that played before it started.
Yeah, me too. I loved the first two TMNT movies so much. Basically, the movies that got replayed over and over and over in my house were the first two TMNT, MOTU, and the Star Wars OT. If it wasn't afterschool cartoons or Saturday morning cartoons, it was almost certainly one of those movies for a good long while.

I understand that the films were different from what most kids were used to - both in the case of MOTU and TMNT. But goddamn I could never get behind why that made them -less good-. I loved them so much and still do. Pure joy when I sit down to watch any of them even to this day (nowadays with my son beside me).
 
I did get irked as a kid when seeing that the first TMNT movie went with a slightly different feel than the cartoon, but eventually I enjoyed it way more. The movie is far more memorable.
 
I LOVE the MOTU Movie. I watch it 2 or 3 times every year. It's on Amazon Prime right now. I loved the Mini Comics as a kid too. As much as I loved the cartoon, the mini comics were more the vibe I loved for He-Man and was definitely how I played with my toys. Some real stakes, barbarian sword and sorcery glory.

People were getting beheaded with axes and swords. By the Power of Grayskull, I will murder you!

Again, love the cartoon, but the mini comics and the amazing artwork of MOTU inspired much more fun and exciting themes for toys.

It's crazy you don't remember them as a kid Justice. A mini comic came with every figure. And it sounds like you had some figures. So, little Justice had to have some MOTU Mini Comics in the house. Have you ever looked at images of the mini comics online, and had any memory of any of the covers or anything?
 
I never read the mini comics either. Very vague memories if any at all.
 
It's crazy you don't remember them as a kid Justice. A mini comic came with every figure. And it sounds like you had some figures. So, little Justice had to have some MOTU Mini Comics in the house. Have you ever looked at images of the mini comics online, and had any memory of any of the covers or anything?
I actually have the Dark Horse mini-comic collection and I've read most of it at this point and nothing jogs my memory. It's so weird, just one big blank.
 
I have such flashbacks to those old records with He-Man stories on them (I had Batman and Spider-Man records too!). I do remember the mini-comics and the old art and the funny thing is even my little-kid-brain recognized something different about them. I of course didn't have the words to describe it then, but looking back, I recognized that the non-cartoon stuff seemed to want to be darker, more violent, more horrific. Skeletor is SCARY in those old images, and He-Man always looks and sounds like he wouldn't mind planting that axe in someone's skull.

Dark reboots are so overdone, but once in a while I get it in my head I'd love to write an homage to MOTU that really delves into the weirdly dark overlap between magic and technology, the absolute body horror of the characters (some of these guys are walking around absolutely mangled by technology), that kind of thing. Actually that's kind of New Eternia in my mind, and why that beardy He-Man Masterverse figure is my favorite. He looks like he's seen some shit. (Wrong thread for that of course, but the Origins style is the one that inspired those daydreams in me as a kid and it's why I keep collecting it).

Fully on-topic, i completely, completely missed that Cartoon Collection Orko came with an alternate head. I may need a second one to use them both.
 
Yeah I've always been deeply curious by how Mekaneck's actual physiology could work. Curious and mildly disturbed.
 
Dark reboots are so overdone, but once in a while I get it in my head I'd love to write an homage to MOTU that really delves into the weirdly dark overlap between magic and technology, the absolute body horror of the characters (some of these guys are walking around absolutely mangled by technology), that kind of thing. Actually that's kind of New Eternia in my mind, and why that beardy He-Man Masterverse figure is my favorite. He looks like he's seen some shit. (Wrong thread for that of course, but the Origins style is the one that inspired those daydreams in me as a kid and it's why I keep collecting it).
Yeeeees. What I like about stuff like this is that it doesn't have to be either/or. There's so many versions of MOTU that it's not like a dark, gritty reboot automatically becomes THE MOTU canon. It just becomes ANOTHER MOTU canon. Given the average age of actual MOTU fans, I think there's value in doing something like this. After all, as we're all discussing here, it's not like a darker, more violent version of MOTU is new ground. That's very much how it started.


I LOVE the MOTU Movie. I watch it 2 or 3 times every year. It's on Amazon Prime right now. I loved the Mini Comics as a kid too. As much as I loved the cartoon, the mini comics were more the vibe I loved for He-Man and was definitely how I played with my toys. Some real stakes, barbarian sword and sorcery glory.
I think there's some overlap in loving the 'toy version of the story' and loving the movie - even if people don't necessarily think so at first.

He-Man on earth is carrying a big ass sword and mowing down troopers that, to a kid, may or may not be robots or may or may not be guys in suits. After all... Star Wars was huge at the time of the MOTU movie and Stormtroopers were guys in suits. Skeletor literally murdered one of his own dudes. Skeletor critically injured Julie with fucking magic poison and we got to hear actual phrases like 'she's dying.' Something cartoons weren't even allowed to say. Something they also said about Sorceress as Skeletor is visibly draining her life force and watching her wither in front of him. Beast Man and Blade were basically horror movie antagonists in the school chase. He-Man was brutally whipped to the point of being covered in burns.
The MOTU movie has way darker grounding to it - similar to the mini-comics - than I think it gets any credit for.
 
Yeah I've always been deeply curious by how Mekaneck's actual physiology could work. Curious and mildly disturbed.
Now my brain is RACING with how I'd explain it in a story.

Ram Man is the one who gets me. What did they do to his legs?

Man, what a series that'd be:
"He had a face, once. Eldritch magic tore it away. And yet he lives, a fleshless skull atop the body of a blue god. He feels no pain. And with it, he feels no remorse."

"He can feel the rings of flexible metal rattle in his chest when he walks. The flesh of his torso mutes those sounds. He is a scout, and silence is his friend. But the clinking and latching of each metal ring as his neck extends into the sky - he feels those sounds in his bones."

"He bounces when he walks. His friends think it is his jovial personality, that he is surprisingly light on his feet. they've never seen his legs, and the coils of mechanized flesh that replaces the limbs he once had. The surgeons did a remarkable job with his head and neck, hiding the scars where his skull and spine were reinforced to absorb astronomical impacts. He has a perpetual headache, every moment of every day."

"His mouth is always dry. He lost his lower jaw to battle axe defending a would-be usurper to the throne, and his right arm. they could have grafted on something that looked more human, but instead, they used this iron wedge. His razor teeth used to cut into his upper lip all the time; the callouses there protect him now. But he hasn't smiled in years. It hurts too much."

"He no longer sleeps. He can't close all of his cybernetic eyes at the same time. One always remains vigilant. That's part of the design. Each eye sees the world a little differently, one clear, one hazy, one through a rage-red haze. It took years for his brain to be able to process seeing in three directions at once. It still turns his stomach sometimes. There are days he wishes he could still look someone properly in the eyes."
 
Dark reboots are so overdone, but once in a while I get it in my head I'd love to write an homage to MOTU that really delves into the weirdly dark overlap between magic and technology, the absolute body horror of the characters (some of these guys are walking around absolutely mangled by technology), that kind of thing. Actually that's kind of New Eternia in my mind, and why that beardy He-Man Masterverse figure is my favorite. He looks like he's seen some shit. (Wrong thread for that of course, but the Origins style is the one that inspired those daydreams in me as a kid and it's why I keep collecting it).
Ha, yes. I've had loose thoughts along the same line. Mine involved a failed attempt at colonization and the deranged onboard AI rebuilding the passengers incorrectly,at least partly. Hadn't worked it all out. But you're definitely speaking to my heart here!
 
Now my brain is RACING with how I'd explain it in a story.

Ram Man is the one who gets me. What did they do to his legs?

Man, what a series that'd be:
"He had a face, once. Eldritch magic tore it away. And yet he lives, a fleshless skull atop the body of a blue god. He feels no pain. And with it, he feels no remorse."

"He can feel the rings of flexible metal rattle in his chest when he walks. The flesh of his torso mutes those sounds. He is a scout, and silence is his friend. But the clinking and latching of each metal ring as his neck extends into the sky - he feels those sounds in his bones."

"He bounces when he walks. His friends think it is his jovial personality, that he is surprisingly light on his feet. they've never seen his legs, and the coils of mechanized flesh that replaces the limbs he once had. The surgeons did a remarkable job with his head and neck, hiding the scars where his skull and spine were reinforced to absorb astronomical impacts. He has a perpetual headache, every moment of every day."

"His mouth is always dry. He lost his lower jaw to battle axe defending a would-be usurper to the throne, and his right arm. they could have grafted on something that looked more human, but instead, they used this iron wedge. His razor teeth used to cut into his upper lip all the time; the callouses there protect him now. But he hasn't smiled in years. It hurts too much."

"He no longer sleeps. He can't close all of his cybernetic eyes at the same time. One always remains vigilant. That's part of the design. Each eye sees the world a little differently, one clear, one hazy, one through a rage-red haze. It took years for his brain to be able to process seeing in three directions at once. It still turns his stomach sometimes. There are days he wishes he could still look someone properly in the eyes."
Well I'm sufficiently disturbed for them all now.
 
I'm sold. Write that book, sir.
It's funny, I've worked in YA/New Adult books for about ten years and I'm currently working on a pitch for my first actual R-rated type project, but now I kinda want to do this MOTU homage instead. Maybe that'll be the next project.
 
"He's never alone in his head. He hears the others all the time. They are him, and he is them, but with each spin of the wheel, which each change of the mask, another Other steps into his skin and takes control. The charlatan, the monster, the robot, the hero. He wants to be the hero all the time, but sometimes he needs to be a liar, or a monster. He cannot remember his real name."

"He should have been king. They paint him as a villain, and perhaps that is the role he needs to play, but the gods gifted him with an intellect beyond that of his kin, and that intellect led him to hate the surface dwellers, their hooks, their nets, their shit and piss flooding into his kingdom. I am a monster from the deep, he thinks. I am their villain. But it is not I who rains down poison onto their world. And my kingdom is three quarters of the planet. They could not survive the horrors of the depths."

"Hordak didn't concern himself with pain when he twisted this body into its new, extended shape. Limbs that stretched and whined with mechanical expansion, every joint and bone screaming in agony as they reached for the sky. They say the rack is a terrible way to die. But what if, by evil sorcery and science, you live forever upon the rack, your body stretched beyond its limits to make you a better weapon?"

"I am a weapon. I know what I look like. I'm a parody of a thing, some sick gun-nut's wet dream. But if I am a weapon, I want to be pointed in the right direction. They replaced my lungs with more efficient, smaller things to make room for the guns in my chest. Scooped out my quads and replaced them with metal pistons to make room for more guns. grafted lasers onto my hands - I've been afraid to touch another living being for years, because I am a weapon, these hands are weapons, and they must always be pointed in the right direction. I don't know how to be anything else."

"They think he is a servant, a warrior, a soldier in this war. But he is not here for war, or loyalty, or payment. He would be here anyway, in this wasteland of violence, weaving his webs, terrorizing his victims. There is a man in his webs right now, a palace guard. No one will ever know his name. But this creature will remember the taste as he drains the man to a desiccated husk. This creature is not a soldier. He is a predator, and he is here to hunt. And to feed."
 
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I feel like the Rio Blast one needs a little more spaghetti western flavor, more twang. At least that's how he sounds in my head.
 
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