Four Horsemen Studios Mythic Legions

Darkmoon766 said:
As cults go I'd say this one is on the very low end of the spectrum to be worried about.
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I mean, yeah, in that thankfully they’ve translated their delusions of grandeur into writing the shittiest lore for orcs imaginable and then saying “this should be a game of some sort!” and not into creating a religion where Treadway is the reborn Christ…

They’re more the “send us more money to help spread the gossip!” (And what is a failed video game and TTRPG but a missionary trip deep into gamer country to ask if they’ve heard the good word of “Screaming Monster Eagle God Beast the Holy Paladins Worship for Some Reason in This Lore”) kind of cult than the “We gotta kill the mayor because he won’t approve the zoning license for out temple!” kinda cult…

But still a cult’s a cult.
 
Yeah - cult mentality takes a lot of faces - some relatively benign, something horrifying and dangerous. The results are not the same, but the symptoms generally are.
 
Saw the Horsemen display at Zolocon. Just the 6 kickstarter figures, or the different looks of what they announced, (I don't care enough to do the research.) Lots of things to sell you. So at above the shelf in a plastic box was the figure and below the purchasable items. Kind of like how Hot Topic does (did?) their shirts. Huge area, not a lot to it though. Didn't really stop and talk and didn't really look around. I was a little pissed that right before I got there they sent me another e-mail about something to purchase instead of my pre-order shipping notice.

Side note: A lot of the little independent toy companies were showing figures designed to look like the proportions and articulation of class MOTU (5 POA). There were more at least three large displays for those types of figures. I wonder if older more niche collectors like that over realistic proportions and articulation. Something for me to watch for I guess. It's just interesting that there is a ton of new product for that collector community all of a sudden.
 
Dek said:
Side note: A lot of the little independent toy companies were showing figures designed to look like the proportions and articulation of class MOTU (5 POA). There were more at least three large displays for those types of figures. I wonder if older more niche collectors like that over realistic proportions and articulation. Something for me to watch for I guess. It's just interesting that there is a ton of new product for that collector community all of a sudden.
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I think there is some nostalgia for that, but mostly if I was a toy company and I could get away with 5 POA, softer sculpt and limited paint figure as a nostalgia item while charging a comparable amount to fully articulated, detailed and painted figure, why wouldn't I go that route? It really isn't meant to be an action figure as much as a pop culture collectible.

(I say this as someone who likes the 1:18 scale retro looking 5 POA figures for certain properties - mainly properties that if they had made contemporaneous toys that would have been the style - like Jaws or Superman 77 or Sesame Street - to match vintage Star Wars or Buck Rogers (TV) or Galactica (78). I do not get it at all for a more recent properties at all - like Game of Thrones in that style would be terrible.)
 
Only 1 I saw directly homaged MOTU, it was a Sci-Fi twist with Faker as the main character from what I could tell. I was 10-inch figures whose muscles were even more exaggerated than MOTU, Muscloids I think. Funky day glo-esqu paint jobs with the veins on the arms and chest highlighted in an even brighter color. Interesting to look at, but maybe not to own, (my opinion.)
 
The Muscloids are their own thing in that space. I'm pretty sure the creator did a skull faced Ultimate Warrior figure a year or 2 ago. I think I saw them in one of Pixel Dan's convention hunt videos, and I think someone gifted him one of them.
 
Damien said:
If it's the same group we'll probably end up adopting the fucking thing.
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If it’s the same group this is going to be one of your mounts by level 5.
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So neither of the two TTRPG industry news shows I listen to every week covered the Kickstarter and they generally will at least give a minute or two of air time to anything that's caught the interest of the TTRPG community a bit (they covered the effin' NEOPETS TTRPG this week, if that's any indication of how deep they dive - apparently the Neopets RPG is a train wreck if anyone is old enough to have played the old flash game). It may be that they'll cover it this coming week but I reckon if there's any debate of is this a toy kickstarter or is it a TTRPG kickstarter, if the industry itself doesn't even notice, that's pretty telling.
 
docsilence said:
So neither of the two TTRPG industry news shows I listen to every week covered the Kickstarter and they generally will at least give a minute or two of air time to anything that's caught the interest of the TTRPG community a bit (they covered the effin' NEOPETS TTRPG this week, if that's any indication of how deep they dive - apparently the Neopets RPG is a train wreck if anyone is old enough to have played the old flash game). It may be that they'll cover it this coming week but I reckon if there's any debate of is this a toy kickstarter or is it a TTRPG kickstarter, if the industry itself doesn't even notice, that's pretty telling.
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"Neopets has a long history of amazing train wrecks," notes Millennial who absolutely had a Neopets account. So I'm excited to hear about this and roll up a Starry Lupe.
 
secondwhiteline said:
"Neopets has a long history of amazing train wrecks," notes Millennial who absolutely had a Neopets account. So I'm excited to hear about this and roll up a Starry Lupe.
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Apparently the parent company put the development equivalent of "stop that and reboot" on the studio making the TTRPG last week - not canceling it but they are NOT happy with how it's coming along. It came up as part of a discussion about what's most important to consider when developing a TTRPG for an existing IP: your own opinion, the IP owner, or the fans, and the answer was depends on who's paying you, and if the IP owner says don't do that, you listen.
 
docsilence said:
(they covered the effin' NEOPETS TTRPG this week, if that's any indication of how deep they dive - apparently the Neopets RPG is a train wreck if anyone is old enough to have played the old flash game).
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My wife is a Neopets superfan. Let me tell you, that community is fucking pissed.

Apparently the TTRPG is someone's pet project with the Neopets branding slapped on top. It's not in the spirit of Neopets at all. Neopets is trying to distance itself from the game. Both sides are at fault, IMO.
 
Breaking a game irreparably and then having to start it from scratch? It really is the Neopets experience.

Edit: Here's the official statement from the Neopets team on the RPG.

And while Neopets has always included moments of higher stakes and darker themes, those elements must be handled thoughtfully and appropriately with sensitivity and inclusivity at the forefront.
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What the hell did this game DO?!
 
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secondwhiteline said:
Breaking a game irreparably and then having to start it from scratch? It really is the Neopets experience.

Edit: Here's the official statement from the Neopets team on the RPG.



What the hell did this game DO?!
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I guess there were a lot of sex/romance options.

From what I understand, Neopets signed off on the initial idea, and then Geekify (the developer) went rogue.
 
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