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[JakeEkiss]

I would LOVE any excuse for them to go back and do a Doppelganger that doesn't suck diseased donkey balls.

Cosigned.

 

[Lucid Silverback]

I once ate diseased donkey balls while vacationing in Madrid.

They're a little chewy, but not as bad as y'all are making them out to be.

 

[Misfit]

Just slather them in ketchup.

 

[Niko (protozoalord)]

Would love for them to do more focused releases in waves, or at least in close proximity to each other. For the waves I'm sure part of it comes down to needing flexibility to meet budgets - it's a lot harder to specify that a wave *must* have these specific characters, as opposed to grab-bag sets where you can swap in whatever lower-effort figures you need to make the numbers add up. It seems like more cohesive releases would drive more people to pick up the whole set instead of cherry-picking and offset whatever budget issue is there, but maybe the AoA waves didn't pan out that way, and it made them gun-shy to try it again.

I'm encouraged by the Inhumans, though. By ML standards they basically speed-ran putting out the entire team (starting with Karnak in 2023) so maybe they're trying "actually completing groups that people want" on for size.

It sort of depends on the storyline. I never thought Age of Apocalypse would be a storyline that's good for something like this, it's entirely disconnected from the main timeline with designs that are insanely niche and complete departures from evergreen expectations. That's something I would slowburn the releases of.

Clone Saga and other mainline stories for example could have decent staples, overdue newcomers, and sorely needed redos. Ben Reilly Spider-Man with blue spider logo, civilian Ben Reilly, Carolyn Trainer, 90s Jackal, Spider-Carnage, Joystick, Judas Traveller, and Spidercide.

 

[hmmberto]

It sort of depends on the storyline. I never thought Age of Apocalypse would be a storyline that's good for something like this, it's entirely disconnected from the main timeline with designs that are insanely niche and complete departures from evergreen expectations. That's something I would slowburn the releases of.

Clone Saga and other mainline stories for example could have decent staples, overdue newcomers, and sorely needed redos. Ben Reilly Spider-Man with blue spider logo, civilian Ben Reilly, Carolyn Trainer, 90s Jackal, Spider-Carnage, Joystick, Judas Traveller, and Spidercide.

That's a great point. All of the iconic mainline stories involve plenty of a-listers, so it's not like asking them to release a Serpent Society box set with only characters with low name recognition. Get those obligatory a-listers in there while slipping in some new looks and new characters. Really seems like an idea worth trying - whole waves/sets of releases based on the Kree-Skrull War, Dark Phoenix Saga, Armors Wars, Born Again, Maximum Carnage, Annihilation...the problem would always be deciding who makes the cut since so many characters appear in those stories and they couldn't do them all, but it'd still be great to see them try.

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

That's a great point. All of the iconic mainline stories involve plenty of a-listers, so it's not like asking them to release a Serpent Society box set with only characters with low name recognition. Get those obligatory a-listers in there while slipping in some new looks and new characters. Really seems like an idea worth trying - whole waves/sets of releases based on the Kree-Skrull War, Dark Phoenix Saga, Armors Wars, Born Again, Maximum Carnage, Annihilation...the problem would always be deciding who makes the cut since so many characters appear in those stories and they couldn't do them all, but it'd still be great to see them try.

If you are doing stories that center around ensemble characters like this it’s always best to start with the main beats of the story and then branch out at a more gradual pace. So for stories like Civil War, you pretty much start with the characters that Marvel has been releasing since 2023 starting with the Black Panther wave. We need Cap, Extremis Iron Man, Luke Cage, Fantastic Four in their modern outfits, daredevil, Black Widow, Elektra, Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers, Spider-Man, Deadpool and the list goes on.

For stories like the clone saga it’s a much smaller cast but it can still branch out because it sprawled into a two year long story arc. So we obviously need Scarlet Spider, Cybernetic Spider-Man, A Classic 90’s Peter Parker Spider-Man, Kaine, Jackal in his leather Jacket, Spider-cide, Scrier, Judas Traveller, Seward Trainer/Caroline Trainer, Gaunt, Cybernetic Hobgoblin, Armada, Mysterio, Jennifer Carridine, civilian Ben Reilly (who has to come packed with the spider-clone skeleton stashed in the duffle bag), Spider-Carnage, Gaunt and Green Goblin. Should Hasbro choose to branch out they can give us characters like The Pro, Grim Hunter, Scorpion in his green and gold armor, Tombstone, Cell-12, the new Sinister Six, featuring young vulture , scorpina and Shocker. And then we have some more newcomers like Joystick, The Black Bull, Phil Urich as the new green goblin, Polestar, the new lizard, Nocturn, Poison and Allison Monigran.

Also if they technically want to branch out, a new Mayday Parker Spider-Girl would be a great capstone because she is the prodigal child of the clone saga


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[Niko (protozoalord)]

That's a great point. All of the iconic mainline stories involve plenty of a-listers, so it's not like asking them to release a Serpent Society box set with only characters with low name recognition. Get those obligatory a-listers in there while slipping in some new looks and new characters. Really seems like an idea worth trying - whole waves/sets of releases based on the Kree-Skrull War, Dark Phoenix Saga, Armors Wars, Born Again, Maximum Carnage, Annihilation...the problem would always be deciding who makes the cut since so many characters appear in those stories and they couldn't do them all, but it'd still be great to see them try.

I think deciding who appears in a wave themed around a specific story, excluding the most essential A-listers and main villains, hinges around whether the characters in question would be most likely to be made in that wave, and whether or not this is THE story for that character.

Psycho-Pirate should be the baseline. He's existed for forever, but Crisis on Infinite Earths is his biggest feature. If you make a figure wave themed after the story and don't include Psycho-Pirate, you'd be crazier than he is, there's just no other reasonable time to make that character. Earth-2 Robin & Huntress fall into a similar camp, as the place they would make most sense is in a Crisis wave, even if they're variants of well known characters.

In a Marvel sense, I think that'd be fairly comparable to not having Volcana in the Secret Wars lines. I understand not including her in wave 1, but it's insane she's not in any of the leak listings. Hopefully she's a standalone deluxe release soon enough.

 

[SDcomics]

That's a great point. All of the iconic mainline stories involve plenty of a-listers, so it's not like asking them to release a Serpent Society box set with only characters with low name recognition. Get those obligatory a-listers in there while slipping in some new looks and new characters. Really seems like an idea worth trying - whole waves/sets of releases based on the Kree-Skrull War, Dark Phoenix Saga, Armors Wars, Born Again, Maximum Carnage, Annihilation...the problem would always be deciding who makes the cut since so many characters appear in those stories and they couldn't do them all, but it'd still be great to see them try.

The Kree-Skrull war would be a dream.

 

[hmmberto]

If you are doing stories that center around ensemble characters like this it’s always best to start with the main beats of the story and then branch out at a more gradual pace. So for stories like Civil War, you pretty much start with the characters that Marvel has been releasing since 2023 starting with the Black Panther wave. We need Cap, Extremis Iron Man, Luke Cage, Fantastic Four in their modern outfits, daredevil, Black Widow, Elektra, Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers, Spider-Man, Deadpool and the list goes on.

For stories like the clone saga it’s a much smaller cast but it can still branch out because it sprawled into a two year long story arc. So we obviously need Scarlet Spider, Cybernetic Spider-Man, A Classic 90’s Peter Parker Spider-Man, Kaine, Jackal in his leather Jacket, Spider-cide, Scrier, Judas Traveller, Seward Trainer/Caroline Trainer, Gaunt, Cybernetic Hobgoblin, Armada, Mysterio, Jennifer Carridine, civilian Ben Reilly (who has to come packed with the spider-clone skeleton stashed in the duffle bag), Spider-Carnage, Gaunt and Green Goblin. Should Hasbro choose to branch out they can give us characters like The Pro, Grim Hunter, Scorpion in his green and gold armor, Tombstone, Cell-12, the new Sinister Six, featuring young vulture , scorpina and Shocker. And then we have some more newcomers like Joystick, The Black Bull, Phil Urich as the new green goblin, Polestar, the new lizard, Nocturn, Poison and Allison Monigran.

Also if they technically want to branch out, a new Mayday Parker Spider-Girl would be a great capstone because she is the prodigal child of the clone saga


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I think this is a perfect encapsulation of one of the challenges of this approach - deciding who makes the cut, balancing representing the story with driving the line forward. For Civil War, most of those characters you wouldn't want/need released under that banner as we already have perfectly serviceable versions of them. Personally I'd want them to pick a handful of the prominent a-listers from that story (Cap and Iron Man being two obvious ones) but primarily focus the their attention on characters relevant to the theme who need figures - in the Civil War example I'm thinking of Nitro, Bill Foster Goliath, Yellowjacket...

You also outlined another challenge, listing ~35 characters from one single story. That's a lot of attention for the line to put on one single theme. They'd never make that many of one story in one go - probably 10-12 at most. But for some, it wouldn't be enough without the complete cast.

 

[hmmberto]

I think deciding who appears in a wave themed around a specific story, excluding the most essential A-listers and main villains, hinges around whether the characters in question would be most likely to be made in that wave, and whether or not this is THE story for that character.

Psycho-Pirate should be the baseline. He's existed for forever, but Crisis on Infinite Earths is his biggest feature. If you make a figure wave themed after the story and don't include Psycho-Pirate, you'd be crazier than he is, there's just no other reasonable time to make that character. Earth-2 Robin & Huntress fall into a similar camp, as the place they would make most sense is in a Crisis wave, even if they're variants of well known characters.

In a Marvel sense, I think that'd be fairly comparable to not having Volcana in the Secret Wars lines. I understand not including her in wave 1, but it's insane she's not in any of the leak listings. Hopefully she's a standalone deluxe release soon enough.

Completely agree. If I was developing a process around this, I'd list all the characters involved in a particular story and create a few categories: their prominence in the story, general recognizability (a-listers, etc), and whether they've had a figure made in ML before. Anyone with high prominence and no figure would immediately go to the top of the "must include" list for that particular themed wave/set of releases.

 

[hmmberto]

The Kree-Skrull war would be a dream.

It would! And it makes for a fun example case. I'd prioritize the releases something like this:

Anchors
Least important to me personally, but obligatory. Pick however many have to be included to anchor the set. Ideally they would be improvements on what we already have.

• Captain America
• Iron Man
• Thor

New characters/costumes
Highest priority

• Rick Jones
• Goliath (Clint Barton)
• Wasp
• Annihilus
• Supreme Intelligence
• Dorrek VII (Skrull emperor)
• Mandroids
• Golden Age heroes (manifested by Rick in the final battle)

Needed remakes
Medium priority

• Captain Marvel
• Kree & Skrull soldiers
• Kree Sentry
• Avengers - Yellowjacket, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Vision

Other prominent characters
Lowest priority. Low name recognition and don't really need remakes, but their importance to the story might warrant inclusion.

• Ronan
• Super Skrull

 

[Stoopid_Sandwich]

I think this is a perfect encapsulation of one of the challenges of this approach - deciding who makes the cut, balancing representing the story with driving the line forward. For Civil War, most of those characters you wouldn't want/need released under that banner as we already have perfectly serviceable versions of them. Personally I'd want them to pick a handful of the prominent a-listers from that story (Cap and Iron Man being two obvious ones) but primarily focus the their attention on characters relevant to the theme who need figures - in the Civil War example I'm thinking of Nitro, Bill Foster Goliath, Yellowjacket...

You also outlined another challenge, listing ~35 characters from one single story. That's a lot of attention for the line to put on one single theme. They'd never make that many of one story in one go - probably 10-12 at most. But for some, it wouldn't be enough without the complete cast.

I mean considering how deep Hasbro has gone with the Jim Lee era of X-Men or the original Spider-Verse story, I’d say a roster of 35 characters is not that much of a stretch. They could knock out that many characters in 2-3 years if they were really motivated


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[altcunningham]

I mean considering how deep Hasbro has gone with the Jim Lee era of X-Men or the original Spider-Verse story, I’d say a roster of 35 characters is not that much of a stretch. They could knock out that many characters in 2-3 years if they were really motivated


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We've seen them do two packs to knock rosters out, and I think that's the best way. Most of us are completing the team anyway.

 

[hmmberto]

I mean considering how deep Hasbro has gone with the Jim Lee era of X-Men or the original Spider-Verse story, I’d say a roster of 35 characters is not that much of a stretch. They could knock out that many characters in 2-3 years if they were really motivated

I'd be all about them going so deep into the roster, but there's a big difference between completing the incredibly iconic and popular Jim Lee X-Men and releasing the 27th most important character from the Clone Saga. And at some point you hit diminishing returns on what entices people to complete the set/team/theme. I'd think realistically they'd do 10-15 from any given story before moving on - not unlike the annual Anniversary/theme programs we've been seeing for years now. Either way, it's all academic - just fun to think about.

 

[Beamish]

We are so close to finishing off my favorite storyline - The Korvac Saga.

Needed:
Korvac
Starhawk
Martinex
Charlie-27
Nikki
Two-Gun Kid
Collector
Carina (but let's face it - of all the characters listed, there is no way they'll ever make Carina)

Additions, but not necessarily needed for the main story:
Jarvis
Aleta
Whizzer
Porcupine
Tryak

Correct Costumes/Updates:
Wasp - orange/gold suit
Moondragon - classic 1970s green
Ms. Marvel - 1970s Farrah hair
Beast - Perez head
Yellowjacket - update
Hercules - classic suit update