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I thought Eternals was fine, not particularly memorable. I think they just jammed too many characters into it all at once, that none of them really had a chance to cook.
 
I didn't hate Eternals...honestly it wasn't interesting enough for me to hate. So many characters crammed into a movie that I didn't really connect to any of them. Honestly, I think it would have benefited from being stretched out into a series far more than many of the D+ Marvel series have.
 
Eternals is one of my favorite films of all time, and definitely in my top 5 MCU movies. I love it to death. I've been a fan of the comics since the Gaiman/Romita Jr. series, but I absolutely adore the more recent Gillen/Ribic run. And it's not like I'm an MCU absolutist who loves anything they make, (Love & Thunder is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life, and Ironheart is goddamn atrocious and took me 6 months to slog through) I just feel like I totally get what Chloe Zhao made with Eternals. It connected with me on so many levels. I'll probably never understand the abject hatred some people have for that movie, and they probably wouldn't understand my profound love for it. C'est la vie.
 
Reno said:
I'm not going to say that the Eternals is one of my favorite movies, but I'm often perplexed at the extreme level of hate that it receives. There have been far worse movies in this genre. It's not one that I would watch multiple times, but there are honestly few movies that I personally ever would feel the need to watch more than once. I can't help but wonder if the "anti-woke" movement hurt this one a bit, in addition to the timing of when it came out. If nothing else, I felt like it had some good acting talent attached to it.
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I dunno... I'm pretty damn woke and I still hated it. And by 'hated it,' I should clarify that I really don't feel anything that strongly for the film. I'm using 'hate' here as a stand in for something like 'recognized for the entire runtime that I was watching a terrible movie and couldn't come up with very many nice things to even say about it when it was over beyond being glad it was over.'

And I'm on record as liking most of the MCU films, and ... half.. of the shows? Somewhere around there. Maybe less than half. I can't remember. But I don't think Eternals has any redeeming qualities as a film or as an entry into the larger MCU.
 
Damien said:
I dunno... I'm pretty damn woke and I still hated it. And by 'hated it,' I should clarify that I really don't feel anything that strongly for the film. I'm using 'hate' here as a stand in for something like 'recognized for the entire runtime that I was watching a terrible movie and couldn't come up with very many nice things to even say about it when it was over beyond being glad it was over.'

And I'm on record as liking most of the MCU films, and ... half.. of the shows? Somewhere around there. Maybe less than half. I can't remember. But I don't think Eternals has any redeeming qualities as a film or as an entry into the larger MCU.
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It was one of the few MCU films that just...bored me. I struggled to stay awake for the last half of the flick. The entire thing seemed like it was set-up for other films. I can find something I like about most MCU movies...this one the only thing I can say was somewhat interesting were the post credit scenes.

And yeah, I'm pretty "woke" myself, as were most of the group of people I went to see it with. None of us cared for it.
 
Wokeness isn't liking a movie because it has an ethnically diverse cast lol especially when they're not human in the movie anyhow. Anti-wokeness was a big reason Eternals got the level of hatred it did though, I remember it in real time because I had to unfollow people I was cool with for years for retweeting reviews like "Going woke won't save THIS Marvel FLOP"
 
I think both things are kinda true? The anti-woke outrage grifters have been targeting MCU stuff for a while, which is probably always going to be a factor in depressing the positive discourse or review scores, but very few people seem to have connected to the movie either. (I think the grift factor probably had more of an impact in The Marvels flopping when the first one was so massive, although that sector has spent a while focused more on mainline Disney for whatever reason. Apparently without a Star War to hate, a Snow White will do just fine? So weird.) Plus they've clearly had trouble keeping interest up post-Endgame.

Possibly I'm underrating the grift factor here, because now I'm remembering content existed that was like, "DIVERSE CAST SMH WOKE DISNEY HAS GONE CRAZY." Eternals was just kind of obviously skippable with no clear hook, though.

The content mill being what it is, this was never going to happen, but I think they probably should have just taken a movie break after Endgame/No Way Home/GotG 3 for a while before opening the next phase or whatever with Fantastic Four. Running with a bunch of more obscure properties after your biggest film ever, one that also presented a natural jumping-off point, feels like it was a mistake. I think they were trying to replicate the "build the Avengers piece by piece" strategy, but just focusing on FF and X-Men would've clarified the transition to a new phase better. (I hate using their terminology, like "phase." I feel like I'm doing their marketing job for them.)
 
CTV said:
Wokeness isn't liking a movie because it has an ethnically diverse cast lol especially when they're not human in the movie anyhow. Anti-wokeness was a big reason Eternals got the level of hatred it did though, I remember it in real time because I had to unfollow people I was cool with for years for retweeting reviews like "Going woke won't save THIS Marvel FLOP"
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Never said that was what "wokeness" is. Not sure where you are getting that from.
 
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Yeah. I'm not sure I fully understand the wokeness comment either.

Like, 100% the movie was shit on by the self-proclaimed 'anti-woke' crowd. My argument is that you don't have to be a member of that crowd to think the movie sucked donkey balls. So you can be a 'woke' person -- whatever that means to you -- and still not like the movie.
 
TheGillMan said:
Never said that was what "wokeness" is. Not sure where you are getting that from.
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I'm confused as to what being "woke" has to do with your opinion of Eternals. I don't think anyone has argued only anti-woke grifters dislike the movie, there are several commenters above you who talk about disliking the movie for valid reasons, which is normal, but you specifically called out you and your friends' level of "wokeness" as a caveat or disclaimer which confused me.
 
CTV said:
I'm confused as to what being "woke" has to do with your opinion of Eternals. I don't think anyone has argued only anti-woke grifters dislike the movie, there are several commenters above you who talk about disliking the movie for valid reasons, which is normal, but you specifically called out you and your friends' level of "wokeness" as a caveat or disclaimer which confused me.
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I think Gill and I were both bouncing off Reno's comment that the anti-woke crowd hurt the film, by pointing out lots of not-anti-woke people strongly disliked the movie. Just adding context that it's not like the film would have done so much better, probably, if the anti-woke crowd had left it alone (do they ever leave anything alone?).
 
Yeah, but only after it makes money and is deemed an objective success like Ghost of Yotei, which I only recently found out had a similar anti-woke backlash against it for whatever reason. The anti-woke grifters got lucky with Eternals because it actually flopped, but I think there are numerous reasons for that.
 
CTV said:
Yeah, but only after it makes money and is deemed an objective success like Ghost of Yotei, which I only recently found out had a similar anti-woke backlash against it for whatever reason. The anti-woke grifters got lucky with Eternals because it actually flopped, but I think there are numerous reasons for that.
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Oh yeah, definitely. It's one of those times where the grifters get to be like "SEE?! WE WERE RIGHT!" just because THIS time they happened to hate a movie that was also a bad movie. It's just the broken clock argument. If you fucking hate 90% of the media that exists, then eventually you're going to hate something that is also just genuinely not good.
 
Agree, it doesn't surprise me at all that Eternals is as divisive as it is because it's a story about [something else] using Marvel superheroes as its cast. I understood what story Zhao was telling and I was into it, I thought it was subversive and interesting commentary on organized religion/idol worship/disease/family dynamics that breakdown as a result of those things but I completely get someone being like "This isn't what I signed up for coming to see an MCU movie." It did remind me of the Eternals comic runs I love though, like Gaiman's and Gillen's that use the characters the same way. I will say, the sex scene was stiff and terrible.
 
My comments were definitely bouncing off of Reno's comment.

I know there have been campaigns by various assholes on the internet to hate films based on having some diversity in the cast, but honestly I think most people don't let those things really influence whether they go see a movie or not. If a movie is bad, it's not going to generate positive word of mouth, period. I saw a lot of the same trolls crusading against the Gunn Superman calling it "woke", but the movie was still a success regardless of the alt-right trolls. At the end of the day, I think most audiences just didn't care for the Eternals.
 
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